--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(snip)

 However, when someone starts talking about
> experinces of CC it is very clear, if you have had
> such experiences, if they are speaking out of
> conceptual belief or direct experince. 

Just curious, but do you think that in order to talk about CC (for 
example) that a person has to be established in that state or can they 
just have had moments where their awareness had expanded to that state?

Rick Carlstrom





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