easyone wrote
> > What is the possibility that you created this
> > experience for yourself due to your 
> > overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man
> > at least 99.99% of the time, let's just 
> > make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own
> > good experiences. Ditto for the rest 
> > of these guru con artists.
--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Easy, do you consider any spiritual teacher, guru,
> etc. to be legit(not going to argue with you, just
> curious)?
> -Peter

At this point I think they are either crooks (most of the time) or well meaning 
people. The 
experiences are created by the individual. 





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