--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ---Sure, that I can get with as I always knew that there can be no 
plot in an open ended drama, no, just point markers, but no 
destination. Furthermore there can be no coherence in an open system. 
Not from the POV of thermodynamics, so all these TM analogies of 
creating coherence are bogus. 

Hmmm. I have never been too hot on the whole "creating coherence" 
thing, since the whole is obviously perfectly coherent on its own. 
Maybe "recognizing coherence" or "appreciating coherence" would be 
closer. As to thermodynamics -- a nice idea, but only half of the 
picture, it seems to me. The "neither created nor destroyed" (or "both 
created and destroyed") bit comes closer to my viewpoint than 
the "everything is running down" gag, but maybe I don't know enough 
about thermodynamics to comment coherently. 





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