--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > 
> > > .. and that the grace of the technique comes from the Mother
alone.
> > I say that.
> > 
> > Well. I'm totally with you, but the Mother made Maharishi do
whatever
> > he did. He couldn't have done otherwise. And thats the reason whe
talk
> > to each other right now.
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> ****
> 
> Are you saying that MMY is just a puppet with no own existence, no 
> own will, 

Yes. And not just he but everyone.

> no sense of responsibility of his actions. 

I wouldn't say so. One can still do whatever one *thinks* is best, and
at the same time be aware that whatever we think, is totally
conditioned and is what God wants us to think (paraphrasing Balsekar)

> The legal term for
> that is:'non compos mentis'. 

Maybe. there must be a term for everything.

> Sure, there are such unlucky people
> among us. Many of those have their permanent residence in mental
> hospitals.

And some maybe enlightened. But as it is, Irmely, I am just sceptical
about our sense of individuality and self. And if you read the
Bhagavad Gita, it is exactly what Krishna says to Arjuna, when he
refuses to kill his own relatives. Krishna says: I have already killed
them. Besides that, brain research indicates, that decissions are
already taken in the brain, *before* we become aware of them, and own
them my our 'individuality' As I see it, modern man is addicted to a
cult of individuality.




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