You certainly don't read very carefully Barry. Maybe that hampster
analogy does fit.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Akasha_108 wrote a lot of stuff -- 322 lines of stuff, in fact, 
> about the issue in the subject line.  While I appreciate the effort, 
> what he/she is talking about strikes me as pure theory, and I really 
> can't getit up for an argument about pure theory right now.
> 
> IMO, if one is NOT *living* every day, 24/7, at the level at 
> which "I am not the doer" is an ever-present reality, then anyone 
> who tries to present that view AS reality is merely defending an 
> idea, and is possibly somewhat attached to that idea.
> 
> Me, that's not my perception of reality.  Therefore I cannot pretend 
> that "I am not the doer" represents reality.  I am open to the 
> possibility that it might be, someday.  I am also open to the 
> possibility that even then it might be nothing more than Just One 
> More Passing State Of Attention.
> 
> Because I'm basically a pragmatic sorta guy, I have to go with the 
> pragmatic approach.  My perception is that I have free will; 
> therefore it is in my interest and in the interest of dharma for me 
> to exercise it.
> 
> I think that a lot of people who hold to predeterminism and the "I 
> am not the doer" idea as an ideal are possibly just trying to escape 
> responsibility for their actions and responsibility for their own 
> self discovery.  They *want* everything to be run by some outside 
> agency (or "internal outside agency").  I tend to label this 
> approach to self discovery as the "Beam me up Scotty" theory of 
> enlightenment.  :-)
> 
> I'm not like that; I'm basically an occultist, willing to make my 
> own decisions and take responsibility for my own self discovery.  I 
> like looking at things that way.  Other people's mileage may vary, 
> and that's cool...
> 
> Unc




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