--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

(snipped the whole thing)

First of all bear with me because I have a bad cold and my brain is 
baking.

I thought this was a great post, not all that hard to comprehend but 
to keep all those ideas organized and visible in my head long enough 
to write them down is a task better suited to an intellect such as 
that of Akasha's.

Here is a little piece from MMY Gita commentary, ch. 3 verse43:

'Having known him': this means having known the indweller of the 
body in his true nature as Being, separate from the whole field of 
activity of the body, senses, mind and intellect.

It's easy to read this and ask the question, "if my true nature is 
separate from the whole field of activity of the body, senses, mind 
and intellect, then who or what is it that is doing the thinking?". 
When we identify as or with our thoughts and someone says that "we" 
are not doing the thinking, it just doesn't make any sense. But it 
says clearly here in the Gita that your true nature is SEPARATE from 
the mind and the intellect.

So it seems that something else is thinking. Why is that something 
else thinking? What is the driver of thought? What is a thought? 
Perhaps a thought is the Light of Consciousness, that light through 
which creation can exist, bound up with nature, giving life to 
nature through the driving force of desire.

Rk Ved X, 129, 11

"Desire in the beginning came upon that, (desire) that was the first 
seed of mind. Sages seeking in their hearts with wisdom found out 
the bond of the existent in the non-existent."

Desire was the first seed of mind, without desire there is only 
stillness but desire causes stillness to move and gunas and mind and 
intellect are created. Desire mixes with nature and thoughts are 
created, these thoughts are the world but as MMY says the indweller 
of the body in his true nature is Being and Being is separate from 
the whole field of activity, so "we" are not thinking, "we" as being 
are only witnessing the play of thought in nature but identifiying 
as or with the body "we"(Being) see the thoughts as ourselves.

This is my take on what I percieve to be the idea behind this thread.

Rick Carlstrom

 









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