--- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > (snipped the whole thing) > > First of all bear with me because I have a bad cold and my brain is > baking. > > I thought this was a great post, not all that hard to comprehend but > to keep all those ideas organized and visible in my head long enough > to write them down is a task better suited to an intellect such as > that of Akasha's. > > Here is a little piece from MMY Gita commentary, ch. 3 verse43: > > 'Having known him': this means having known the indweller of the > body in his true nature as Being, separate from the whole field of > activity of the body, senses, mind and intellect. > > It's easy to read this and ask the question, "if my true nature is > separate from the whole field of activity of the body, senses, mind > and intellect, then who or what is it that is doing the thinking?". > When we identify as or with our thoughts and someone says that "we" > are not doing the thinking, it just doesn't make any sense. But it > says clearly here in the Gita that your true nature is SEPARATE from > the mind and the intellect. > > So it seems that something else is thinking.
Why must this be the case? > Why is that something else thinking? You seem to think (haha, funny in this discussion) there must be a thinker and it must be as grand or grander than you. Think of fractals created by a PC. Very intricate, original, beautiful, detailed and original. But all created by a few equations. Think of a 3D or 4D (time) fractal. Would not be hard to generate if it could only be projected 9or made to appear to be projected). Think of a pile of data / memories. And a timing mechanism to have them be retrieved to cache. And then the CPU churns on the data. Maybe sends some action orders to the hard drives or printer, or monitor. Seems complex and sophisticated. But its just a pile of data (sanskaras) some timing mechanism (cosmic clocks, jyotish would say), some temporary holding station (mind) some crunching or manipulation of the data (CPU) and some action (arms, legs). Why does sucha SIMPLE thing need a BIG thinker behind it. And why do you NEED to feel YOU own it. Or that this is what you are? Just some thoughts that arose. :) (I swear, I had nothing to do with it officer.) What is the driver of thought? What is a thought? > Perhaps a thought is the Light of Consciousness, that light through > which creation can exist, bound up with nature, giving life to > nature through the driving force of desire. > > Rk Ved X, 129, 11 > > "Desire in the beginning came upon that, (desire) that was the first > seed of mind. Sages seeking in their hearts with wisdom found out > the bond of the existent in the non-existent." > > Desire was the first seed of mind, without desire there is only > stillness but desire causes stillness to move and gunas and mind and > intellect are created. Desire mixes with nature and thoughts are > created, these thoughts are the world but as MMY says the indweller > of the body in his true nature is Being and Being is separate from > the whole field of activity, so "we" are not thinking, "we" as being > are only witnessing the play of thought in nature but identifiying > as or with the body "we"(Being) see the thoughts as ourselves. > > This is my take on what I percieve to be the idea behind this thread. > > Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
