--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 17, 2005, at 8:50 AM, off_program_beings wrote: > > > Or maybe they are just enjoying the bliss after 30 years of TM and > > have slowed down their evolution. Nothing wrong with that. > > You might want to consider that they may have accelerated��their > evolution. > > Here's why. > > If they were "enjoying bliss" this phrase is a dead giveaway. True > bliss consciousness is an integrated state of awareness--not something > enjoyable within time per se. One of the big pitfalls of mantra > meditation (outside of bhakti) is that the person gets attached to > their own bliss sheath. Many of the sages of the tradition warn against > this. The reason is that the bliss body (or sheath) is just another > veil of ignorance and this is identified by having three modifications: > anticipating that joy, being delighted about it after you acquired the > "bliss" and the actual experience of bliss. If your experience of bliss > has any of these qualifications, then guess what: it's ignorance. > Blissignorance. > > The Jivan-mukti-vivkeka, the standard text on CC, is a great companion > for those who are interested in Cosmic Consciousness, and has some > really poignant warnings for those who would be bliss-kittens. > > Purr not!>>>
I do not have time to answer you and Alex's long patronising monologues. The fact of the matter is that you and Alex don't understand TM. Your posts shine that reality out almost every time. Your ego prevents you from seeing this. An INSIGHTFUL person who has learned TM and TM-sidhis will see it. I am not going to explain it, because your arguments are so inconsistent with reasoning that it would be a waste of time. Your understadning of bliss, transcending, and enlightenment are merely pseudo-scholarly diaoreah. You and others are spreading ignorance about meditation and enlightenment. And, it is VERY clear from your posts that you believe that YOU are the only one that knows. Your knowledge is all mixed up and confused. You are like a bible-thumper, spewing whatever comes to mind and interpreting it any way they choose in order to spread their agenda. I'll take the Buddha's advice on this one: "Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
