--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ramana
> > was very well aware of stages with self-realization, ie. after being
> > liberated, according to a friend who came close to one of his very
> > close discoples (Annamallai Swami) Yet he sees Videha Mukti as being
> > after death.
> 
> Yes, yes, I've heard that too.

What, that RM spoke of levels after liberation?
<snip>

> Videha is described various ways. In reference to videha it is being 
> bodiless while still maintaining a body. Some say you retain mahat, 
> ahamkara and mind as videhas

You mean without physical bodies? Thats what I was saying.

--yet others say that videhas only maintain 
> the linga (i.e. the mahat). If there is any controversy over videha 
> IMO, that is the only relevant one (not whether it occurs before or 
> after death).

But with or without physical body?
> 
> As I said the recent trans. by Shearer, which someone here stated M. 
> was recommending as 'the one to use', states that this is one of the 
> terms for unity c. (videha-mukti).

Maybe he did. I don't know. But in that case we should know how he -
Maharishi interprets the same text.
> 
> My understanding is that Videha is a process and should not be thought 
> of as a singular event. While bodily dissolution could be the end 
> result, it is not necessarily the desired result ;-).

Bodily dissolution is inevitable for the physical body. Except if you
want to dissolve your body into a statue, like Meera did, or close
yourself into a room and dissappear, like it is said of Ramalinga Swami
> 
> I was taught that there were nine levels to this.

And I heard there are twelve ;-)




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