--- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I like the Buddhist way of life and the walk the talk approach and 
> other things you mention. But I never could make sense of their 
> idea of no God or no Self. Belief in Karma, a moral order that has 
> no empirical evidence...

No empirical objective evidence.  There are techniques
one can practice in which one can determine the karma
of an action immediately following it, or by even 
pondering the action.  This is subjective, but if 
you've been there, done that, there is simply no
question but that karma exists and works as described.

> ...implies some God-like principles of fairness...

Nothing could *conceivably* be more fair than karma.
It works the same for everyone.

> ...and evolution of consciousness - cosmic "purposefulness", 
> not just blind mechanics. 

Evolution is fully supported by the idea of karma,
supported by "blind mechanics" in conjunction with
free will.

> An Occam's razor approach would dispense with such 
> elaborations. 

"Elaborations?"  Nothing could possibly *be* more "Occam's
razor" than karma.  It is the simplest of all possible
descriptions of the mechanics of the universe.  It is 
the more deity-oriented or "exceptions to the rules" 
approaches that are more elaborate and strained.

> Also I can't understand their distinction between 
> reincarnation and rebirth in the light of the no-self doctrine. 

Different teachings based on different states of conscious-
ness, that's all.  Is the description of the universe as
seen from Unity the same as the description of the universe
as seen from CC, or from ignorance?  No, of course not.  But
all of these descriptions still exist, as realities.

> Paradoxically Buddha or Buddha Nature has become deified itself...

Only in a few sects.
 
> ...and Buddhist use devotion as "skillful means". 

I have personally never encountered such a Buddhist.

> Consequently I'm attracted 
> to Buddhism as a way of life but to the Gita as my guiding 
> philosophy. But perhaps you can disentagle my confusion?

I doubt it.  I'm still working on disentangling mine.  :-)

Buddhism as a way of life pretty much describes it for me.

Unc






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