--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2005, at 11:24 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > Of course, if a guru (which MMY isn't in the > > > traditional sense, BTW) > > > > > really DOES have the "bestest" technique or > > > whatever, then it would > > > > > be silly not to claim it. > > > > > > > > If there was such a thing. Not everyone > believes > > > what they are told. > > > > Given that many trads. have a proven track > record > > > of enlightenment, > > > > I'm sure many could claim they are the best. > Many > > > of those that do > > > have > > > > such a record, don't make such claims. > > > > > > > > A big emphasis of Bob's was watch out if they > well > > > you you should see > > > > no other teachers....in this case very apropos > re: > > > TMO. > > > > > > Quite a few studies have come out in the past > few > > > years about > > > enlightened individuals. The DSM has changed its > > > evaluation of > > > derealization from meditation/spiritual > techniques > > > based on interviews > > > with enlightened TMers. > > > > What!!!!! "The DSM [Diagnostic and Statistical > Manual > > of Mental Disorders] has changed its evaluation of > > derealization [disorder] based on interviews with > > enlightened TMers" What is your source for this > rather > > dubious statement. > > -Peter > > > > > > The DSM. > > REad the section about derealization disorders. > > > > "Voluntarily induced experiences of > depersonalization or > derealization form part of meditative and trance > practices that are > prevalent in many religions and cultures and should > not be confused > with Depersonalization Disorder." (p. 488)
That's not the part I'm "!!!" about. It's the "based on interviews with enlightened TMers". I assume this was an assumption on your part? -Peter > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
