I suppose the paradox is there- maybe in thinking of the snake and string it 
clears it up-

The significant thing is a process of ilimination for what is transcient and 
what is eternal. 
All that which is transcient has a reality to it but short lived and therefore 
no reality so a 
paradox

Last week, we had a gathering so one of the newly enlightened was there. She 
was saying 
the wonder of it all- for you can never get it but yet It is there

It again points to the headline of this post- as I said earlier, you will see 
these comments 
from Guru's speaking from this level of Being such as Ramana Maharishi- I don't 
think you 
will  find this from TM's Maharihsi because it is not know to him

There is a good purpose in poiinting out if a Master is enlightened or not. For 
those open 
to this, examination can show why this possibility exists one way or the other- 
then it 
explains why one is confused, or why one has not heard or understood these 
things which 
Ramana talks about, or very significant is that the disciple is not going to go 
further than 
the Guru.

There are two newly enlightened one's in my path this year. By comparrison, 
Nityananda, 
the guru of Muktananda left his body early and stated there is not one that 
came seeking 
eternal Liberation, but rather seeking out guidance for a better "Me"

Bottom line is enlightenment is really a possibility this life time but the 
master has to be 
enlightened, sat Guru, and then from the opinion of my Guru, it is essencial to 
be working 
one to one. The Guru is the light, the disciple is in darkness which is ego ( 
identification of 
mind and body as being the self, or the small self is the existence)

If one is using the inner Guru, visions, revelatiuons, form of inner Guru of 
some Guru, it is 
fiultered through this ego. Ego will fight tooth and nail to keep it 's throne, 
Outter Guru is 
the light that has already traversed the path to enlightenment and has the know 
how to 
guide one in this darkness- out of it

The formula for enlightenment is surrender to this Guru which is consciousness, 
not mind 
and body- 0r put it this way, one is surrendering to consciosness. Faith is 
involved. If one 
is intent on argueing, intent that they will use their own inner guru, intent 
that they will do 
their own navigating- then this process is obviously not for them.

in such a case, all that is said from this camp here is good luck with your 
journey, may it 
bring all that you are looking for


Hridaya Puri


--- In [email protected], "tertonzeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --Thanks, Bronte, I like your comments!.
> The statement, "There's only the One" is a true statement, but it's 
> incomplete, since a certain Guru with a name is saying that. The Guru 
> doesn't "have" a body....he is a body/mind as an individual as 
> opposed to other individuals, in the relative sense.  
>  A more complete statement would be "There's only One, which 
> expresses Itself as many, without losing the nonduality".
> 
> 


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