> For without that cloning the teaching is > small scale and > ineffective in the long-term.
The TMO's initiation level is small scale and ineffective now. One of the main points brought up in this thread is that, even if the organization needs initiation fee income to maintain itself and propagate itself... isn't it much more profitable to initiate 1000 people for a $250 fee than 10 people for a $2500 fee? --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > It doesn't exist. > > > > > The age-old traditions in East and West, > always expected the > > > > > student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her > self to the > cause, > > > > > usually for years, before any SIGNIFICANT > teaching was given > > > > > to them. It is a way to assess the > worthiness of a student. > > > > > > > > I must disagree. > > > > > > > > There have been, and are today, many > traditions > > > > that teach meditation for free, with nothing > either > > > > asked of or expected from the student. > > > > > > There are none. > > > > With all due respect, you are mistaken. Sadly > mistaken. > > You need to get out more, spiritually. > > > > > Money for sustainance for teacher and > > > ashram/church/centre, comes from somewhere. > > > > That is true. In the traditions I am speaking > about, > > the money to pay for the teaching comes from the > > teachers themselves, supplemented occasionally by > > donations (*real* donations...never asked > for...never > > solicited) from students who felt they got > something > > valuable from the teaching and wish to help > someone > > else find the same thing. It's the "pay it > forward" > > paradigm, not the "pay the teacher" or "pay the > > organization" paradigm. > > > > > More importantly, notice I used the word > SIGNIFICANT. Please > name > > > any significant teaching where some sacrifice is > not expected. > > > > > > > I was *very much* engaged in the lifelong mission > of > > teaching that Maharishi is engaged in. I still > am. > > I choose to pay for it myself. So do many of the > > monks I studied with. We teach because we > consider > > what we have managed to learn along the Way > valuable > > enough that we feel the need to make it available > to > > those who might be interested. And we teach for > free, > > paying for everything ourselves, because we are > more > > than a little weird, and that's our weird idea of > fun. > > > > Unc>>> > > Yes it is a hobby for you. > It is a full-time, lifetime occupation for Maharishi > and his cloned > teachers. For without that cloning the teaching is > small scale and > ineffective in the long-term. In a sense, it is > selfish, for it > benifits only yourself and maybe a couple of others. > > Nothing is for free. Where do you get the money to > live day to day. > Also, to teach on a larger scale the teachers need > income, and to > sustain and advertise an effective organization > takes income. Also, > Maharishi has taught TM to 100 of thousands (maybe > closer ot > millions) completely for FREE in third world > countries(and in some > cases TM-Sidhis, and TTC). I personally know some of > them. He was > able to do this massive and unparalled - in the > history of the human > race - underataking, by charging the developed > countries. > So how many have you taught for free in third world > countries? > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
