--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > my understanding is that if
> > you identify with the Self rather than the self,
> 
> Judy, in your framework:
>  Who is the "you" that is identifying with the small self?

It's an artifact of language.

>  If the answer is "the ego", then what is the differentiation of the
> ego with the i) "you" (above)

I honestly don't know what to call it, or even if
it can be thought of as an "it."

It's "that which identifies," perhaps. It isn't the
individual ego, obviously, because that's what this
unnamed *thing* identifies *with* before enlightenment.

Maybe it's Bronte's/MMY's "universal ego." I'm not
sure it matters what it's called; to name it won't
help define it.

>  Which are volitional?

You mean, which have "free will"?

I think the notion of "free will" is an artifact
of duality, so I'd say the question is meaningless.



> Same question of Bronte, or anyone, if the above framework is your
> understanding, or experience. And which?
>


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