--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Jeff Fischer" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], steven > > klayman > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > Do the puja, give them Gods name and have them > > repeat > > > > it. End of story. Check up one them once in a > > while > > > > and know their own karma guides them. > > > > > > > > You dont still believe in meaningless sounds do > > you? > > > > Or are you worried if you told the truth you > > would > > > > break some "fine threads" between you and MMY. > > > > Read my lips. MANTRAS ARE NOT MEANINGLESS > > SOUNDS. > > > > Read the Gita. Chapter 8. Krishna gives the > > technique > > > > for God Realization at hte time of death. > > > > Of course MMY never published the last 12 > > chapters. > > > > Curious HuH? > > > > Concentrate your gaze between the eyebrows and > > > > meditate on Gods name. > > > > > > > > Good luck to all true seekers and lovers of > > truth. > > > > steve > > > > > > The point I'd like to query here is that as an > > initiate and > > initiator > > > I was told the mantras were meaningless sounds. I > > became > > suspicious > > > about this hearing about the NJ court case and > > having been taught > > > that Sanskrit is a "name is form" language. It > > unravelled for me > > > when I got my advanced technique and knew the > > meaning of > > that "sound". > > > If the mantras were promoted as meaningless sounds > > and were indeed > > > names of God, doesn't it seem rather Machiavellian > > to misrepresent > > > (dare I say lie?) this fact to westerners to get > > them to silently > > > chant the names of God "for their own good?" And > > TM's NOT a > > religion? > > > If you believe that, I refer you to the story > > about "a duck." > > > > > > These are fundamental points. When an > > organization fundamentally > > mis- > > > represents itself, how long would you expect it to > > last? > > > > > > > The bija mantras are meaningless by any standard. > > They have no > > meaning in Sanskrit or English and their origin is > > unknown. No TM > > mantra has meaning as it is taught. If you chose to > > assign it > > meaning, that's your problem. > > That's not quite correct. While bija mantras literally > have no meaning, they are associated with specific > impulses of creative intelligence (aka gods). For > example: "shrim" doesn't mean anything, but it is a > bija of Laksmi. I have no problem explaining this to > people. You just have to clarify and undo some > misconceptions about what a god is and what a mantra > is. Unfortunately most people are too intellectually > lazy and incurious to try to figure this out. Like > talking to people in some parts of Africa who think > AIDS is caused by voodo. They just aren't going to > understand it because its too much of a foundational > shift in their conceptual world.
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