--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > **Here is one excerpt from my gurus writtings: > > As Ramana melted within Arunachala > obedient and surrendered and never did > he leave his Guru's side. He came amidst all > obstacles and Surrendered to it's wisdom > as Shiva. He stayed once home without ever > a thought of leaving.
Ron, As sweet as you seem to be, and as inspired as you obviously are by your new path, this is all starting to get really repetitive and tiresome and well, somebody's got to say so. You seem to get a bit compulsive with your post- ing whenever anyone around here suggests that one doesn't "need" a "guru". You launch into post after post after post after post telling us what "my guru" and Ramana and any other authority figure you can think of says about such things. Give it a rest already. The person who "needs" a guru is YOU, dude. You can't say two sentences without invoking the holy words "My guru says..." in front of some sentence. And frankly, if you are the *product* of "finding a guru," I want nothing to do with it. I kinda prefer having my *own* thoughts, and being able to answer someone's questions with my *own* words, and making my *own* decisions about my life and my path through it. "Your guru" has, as far as I can tell, turned you into a Class-A wuss who is now terrified to think for himself. You really *can't* do anything but repeat her words ad nauseum to other people, seem- ingly hoping to convince them to join you on the Path Of Being Unable To Think For Oneself. I honestly don't think you're going to find very many "takers" for this sales spiel here. All we have to do to measure its worth is watch how distraught and defensive you get whenever anyone suggests that someone may have realized their enlightenment *without* a guru, or that someone is even doing well without a guru. Dude, to be honest, that says more about *your* needs than it does any universal "need" for a guru. You've been sold a bill of goods. You've been told that you "need" someone's guidance to find who you really are, and who you always already have been all your life. You post here about how Maharishi couldn't poss- ibly be enlightened because he feels "restricted" if he's not safely inside a S-V building. Well, dude, it really seems to me that you feel awfully restricted unless you're safely inside the aura of some guru telling you what to do and what to think at all times. If that gets you off, more power to you and I wish you well on your Way. But I don't think it's going to lead you where you think it will. I've watched your language over the last few months become *more and more* dependent on your guru, and *less and less* able to express anything that sounds like someone I'd like to get to know. Much less buy anything from. So don't *sell* so hard, man. In the world of spiritual teaching, the "brochure" one uses to sell with is *oneself* -- how one thinks and acts and speaks. Your "brochure" consistently shows someone who has almost entirely lost the ability to think for himself, and who has been reduced to prefacing almost everything he says with, "My guru says..." While I understand that you may see this as a positive thing, I'm not sure that you understand that others here may not see it that way. Whatever. Continue doing your thing, and being a missionary for your guru, if that gets you off. But y'know...if after a few more months or years of this you find that the savages you're preaching to haven't been flocking to buy what you're selling, you might give some thought to reworking the sales brochure.