--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > Write the ticket and get on with your life so > > I can get on with mine. Don't keep standing > > there demanding that I apologize to you. I have > > *no problem* with paying the fine. > > I don't really know the issue here, just out of curiosity > and for the sake of the fun of it: If the fine was to > apologize, what would you do?
Just for the sake of the fun of it, if a frog had wings he wouldn't bounce along on his butt when he jumped. ( And I guess the same 'what if' scenario applies to "Yogic Flyers." :-) The "fine" *isn't* to apologize. But some people are trying to *make* that the fine. > Lets say Rick says, the fine is to apologize to the > person you insulted, would you be okay to say so? In this case, NO WAY. The insultee in question is still acting like the injured party here, after 1) reacting to a fairly non-controversial reacting to me presenting another side of the abortion issue that didn't quite portray the women as the thoughtless baby killers he was trying to portray them as with a personal attack on me. He suggested (and rather strongly) that the babies in question were mine, and that I was trying to talk the women into the abortion. When I reacted (and, I dare say, overreacted) to this, he followed up by trying to character- ize me as an "abortion counselor," someone who actively tried to get women to consider abortions. None of this was true. It was all fantasies he'd dreamed up in his head so that he didn't have to consider the possibility that some women (and probably not all) were not the heartless baby- killers he was trying to characterize them as. So no, in this case, I do not feel any apology is in order for the gist of what I said. The *way* I said it, and my button-pushed overreaction, was definitely inappropriate. In retrospect, why on earth should I care what a person who thinks like this thinks of me. At the time, however, my but- tons definitely got pushed, and I said what I had to say in a flaming manner. If the same exchange were to happen today, I would say *exactly the same things*, but in a less personal and flaming manner. I just don't apologize for standing up for women who have been characterized unfairly by someone who has a rather judgmental and non-compassionate and one-sided way of looking at the subject. And, as I wrote about before, I just don't apolo- gize because someone is demanding it of me. So I guess the overall answer to your question is No. If Fairfield Life turned into the kind of place where people were expected to apologize for the behavior that the majority of people declared "inappropriate," I would bail from it far more quickly than I bailed from the TM movement, which tried to do exactly that.
