--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > > > That moment often is referred to by the enlightened as > > the pivotal moment in their lives in which the seed of > > realization was planted. It may not have actually been > > *doing* the Something Else that "caused" realization, > > but just making that decision to no longer be reliant > > on Someone Else's Path in almost every case revealed > > their *own* path to them. And that path led them home. > > > > This is good stuff- It is true you eventually have to 'find' it for > yourself- basically this is the philosophy of the 12-step programs- > that you need to find: 'Your own 'Higher Power'. > Jesus claimed the same: Search within... > Maharishi teaches the same: It's all within... > > Then there's the idea of 'old soul, young soul'... > Some people aren't the least bit interested in any of this stuff of > enlightenment, as they are caught up in the more material side of > things: survival, position, possessions, not much time left for > anything spiritual. > Then there's the one's that need to just follow one of the various > dogmas, of one the religions... > Only problem is: all of the religions are generally based in a figure- > head who was enlightened, but as was said, you can't get there, by > just being a 'Parrot'...quack, quack... > > Then there's the 'Jacobs Ladder Principle'... > Have you ever noticed when you are speaking to someone, > About some ecsorteric stuff, that they just sort of 'blank out', > And didn't hear a word you said; have you ever noticed that for > yourself, at times: someone will have told you something, and you > completely blank out on what was said. > Sometimes your not ready to hear what is being said. > You can't skip steps in the Soul's evolution, it comes in steps, > lessons, trials and tribulations, pain, and joy. > > It's great to find a teacher, a guru, to hang with, and learn from. > Especially if one has the good fortune to meet an enlightened one. > Being around someone who is enlightened is contagious, as they are > vibrating the vibration of one who is beyond the ego- very rare. > It's called Darshan in India, and to be in the darshan of a high > being, is an honor and a blessing. > > But eventually, if you are to become enlightened yourself, > You have to take the final leap, yourself. > And if you have a good guru, he or she will push you, when you are > ready. > I supose I can talk about my own experience. I was on my own because the way things were is not really like having a Guru compared to now. So this is new and the experience is good, There was rapid evolution this past year.
I am already old enough and enlightenment is not there, but now it looks possible and I can grasp the situation. I am more relaxed, and actually out of the dogma which I was in. I put myself there by non the less it was uncomfortable. But about the doing it on your own, I have now been on both sides of the fence, the first side was 47 years, how much longer do i have to wait? the opportunity came up to be with a Guru and i gave it a shot. I could care less about public opinion, I just took sanyas, shaved my head for the ceremony, was walking around LA in an orange dress and shirt- does that sound like one that is concerned with public opionion? Why is it though that if I say it is the prebirth right that each person has this enlightenment, all would agreee, but if I say that also a Guru can come from any country and their dharshan would be the same- oh noooo, it has to be indian or it cant be? You know , i think most of the sadakas in my path are happy to have the Guru all to ourselfs because we know about the transformation and evolution that took place. The are like 15 sadakas reporting in , and one after the other talking about a stilled mind, etc. Well, we know it is not right to hog the guru to ourselfs, so we offer it up all over the place, mostly it is rejected. The honest truth is I dont care. I am really happy to have this individual attention. I also am happy if people are interested but either way is quite fine. Hridaya
