The only problem I find with America is that it
doesn't identify the delusional fast enough to
hospitalize them. Instead it offers them internet
access. Oh well. By the way, racecar spelled backwards
is racecar. Makes you think, doesn't it?
 
--- Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I did answer it.  And what makes you think I despise
> it? On the contrary, I love it.  America has offered
> sanctuary to many thousands and America has also
> sent many thousands to their deaths.  America has
> turned back ships of Jewish refugees, and with full
> knowledge sending them to their deaths.  America is
> more complex, apparently, and more deep than you
> would have her be.  And equally apparent is that you
> think me more simple than I am. a
> 
> feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                  
>             Of course it was a serious question, and
> you chose not to answer it.
>  You stated that US actions around the world
> post-WWII made Hitler
>  "look like a boy scout." Nothing you have said here
> has explained or
>  justified that outlandish statement. 
>  
>  America has offered sanctuary to many thousands of
> people fleeing from
>  all kinds of tyrannies. It offered you a chance, I
> presume, as a
>  foreigner, to come here and make a success of your
> life. It offered
>  you freedom. Why do you appear to despise it so
> much? 
>  
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
> Mailander
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > I take it, "Show me the American Holocaust,
> please" is not a serious
>  question because I could show you, but I doubt you
> want to see what is
>  going on under our noses right now in terms of
> America transforming
>  itself into a military dictatorship and inflicting
> pain and torture on
>  a significant number of our fellow creatures.  Are
> they really our
>  enemies?  And if they are, are enemies created?  
> If so, who creates 
>  them? and why?  
>  > 
>  > In my opinion, the evidence that America has been
> creating evil
>  dictators and concomitant wars all around the world
> for at least a
>  hundred years is compelling, but I could be wrong.
> What would you
>  conclude if you saw the same M.O. all over the
> globe, like a serial
>  killer. You;d ask the usual questions: motive?
> opportunity? benefit? 
>  what does the evidence tell you?  What have other
> great detectives
>  concluded who have been watching this?  Do their
> points of  view come
>  in schools?  Do they have axes to grind?  
>  > 
>  > It looks to me that it's America's turn to become
> the locus of this
>  energy which we have been calling fascist, but I'm
> cool with any name
>  you want to suggest. Just who or what is America?
> Somebody's tool? 
>  Autonomous? Who or what governs it? If anything.
> What is the energy
>  that animates us, not as individuals, but as a
> people of a world
>  divided against itself---who or what creates it? 
> Maybe the periodic
>  fascist occurrences on the planet are like an evil
> spirit manifesting
>  all over the place, and people aren't to blame for
> expressing that
>  spirit, they have no real choice.
>  > 
>  > But there are many ways to see anything.  What do
> you think is
>  actually going on on this planet?  Do you think the
> planet is just
>  fine?  Do you think humanity is just fine?  Do you
> care?  If so, why?   
>  > 
>  > Do you think that periodic culling of a herd is
> necessary for its
>  continued health and vitality and even survival? 
>  > 
>  > You're an intelligent biological entity, 
>  > a cell in a computer called humanity, 
>  > incarnate on a planet, 
>  > at a certain point in history, 
>  > what the fuck do you see? 
>  >     
>  > 
>  > feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                     
>          Try to
>  write a post without mentioning Hitler. You kill
> your case by
>  >  overstating it. America in the world post-WWII
> makes Hitler look like
>  >  a boy scout? Show me the American Holocaust
> please.  
>  >  
>  >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
> Mailander
>  >  <mailander111@> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > The "Maharishi effect" and the "reverse
> Maharishi effect" are both
>  >  in the Bible, so neither concept is anything
> new.  
>  >  > 
>  >  > I am not appalled by spelling errors or by
> "fuck you's" liberally
>  >  sprinkled in other people's prose, but the
> indifference I've seen to
>  >  the suffering and large-scale death America has
> inflicted world-wide
>  >  since 45, and which makes Hitler look like a boy
> scout, appalls me as
>  >  much as it does Edg.  America is just beginning
> to wake up to the fact
>  >  that she created Hitler as a tool in the same
> way she created Saddam
>  >  Hussein and a bunch of other evil dictators. 
> It's a familiar M.O. by
>  >  now, but wearing a bit thin in the world.  In
> 1945, the Germans were
>  >  still ignorant enough to welcome the American
> army as liberators (as
>  >  Bush thought the people in Iraq should and
> would). Germans didn't
>  >  figure out till the late fifties what really
> happened.  So it's taken
>  >  another almost fifty years before there is any
> indication that
>  >  ordinary Americans are waking up to who their
> leaders have been since
>  >  Eisenhower warned them in his farewell speech
> and nobody listened. a
>  >  > 
>  >  > curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:   
>                  
>  >           --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> Duveyoung <no_reply@>
>  >  wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Rick,
>  >  >  > 
>  >  >  > Thanks for the reminder, but do you really
> think that my
>  flaming an
>  >  >  > apologist for evil would be out of line? 
> Surely, it cannot be
>  merely
>  >  >  > the use of swear words that you're warning
> me about. 
>  >  >  
>  >  >  Yeah, what's a few "Fuck you's" among
> internet strangers? (how
>  do you
>  >  >  make FU plural?)
>  >  >   
>  >  >  > 
>  >  >  > Additionally, I believe I laid out my
> reasons for why it might
>  be a
>  >  >  > view of some heft that Curtis is, indeed,
> deserving my, well,
>  let's
>  >  >  > call them for what they are: poetic words
> that attempts to
>  nutshell
>  >  >  > something so wrong about a person's core
> POV that it amounts to
>  >  >  being > a menace to culture. 
>  >  >  
>  >  >  That's me, "menace to culture".  This may
> prove to be your best
>  >  post yet.
>  >  >  
>  >  >  My exaggerations are merely my way of showing
> my > emotional
>  >  >  response.  Posters here often are
> intellectually dishonest,
>  >  >  > and my emotions are one way to snap them to
> attention, or at the
>  >  >  > least, underline for all here about the
> depth of my stance.
>  >  >  
>  >  >  Flaming shows an "emotional response"?  What
> a novel concept. 
>  So the
>  >  >  flaming is for our own good?  That's a
> relief, I thought your were
>  >  >  just flaming for selfish purposes.  Consider
> me all "snapped to
> 
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