"If FF really is a place, still, where "MMY says" is a conversation stopper, its not that far from "the pope said, the furher said, the chairman said, jesus said, god said (via our preacher), the good book says, etc."
FF is such a place in my experience. And belief is a powerful thing that can do all kinds of interesting things to awareness. Derrida cites the case of a woman in the middle ages who died BECAUSE she believed she would upon staying in a bathtub full of water for several hours. So I have no trouble with believing a dude can grow dim by staring at his turd. Floaters are more dangerous than sinkers in my opinion. a "new.morning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <Snip> > > > > For TMers, handling pets is a drain on energy in the same way that > > ordinary people are a drain on a yogi. > > <Snip> For > > instance, in India one is advised not to look at one's own excrement, > > and sure enough, on those occasions when I do glance at the toilet > > trout, there's a diminution of awareness. > > Wow that is some powerful awareness you got there man. How can I get > some of that! I'm gunna guess that if you ever had to muck out a > horse stall, between the draining effect of animals and the doody > factor you would basically pass out from your enlightenednessinmenthood. And the Vedas (laws of manu) say that energy increases with slaves and 12 year old brides. I suppose vedic synchophants will try to get off on that too. An interesting experiment: Six groups. 2 of those predisposed to believing the vedas are to be taken literally, and all directives are good, and relevant to this age -- as they are the supreme truth. @ are like the above, but substitute bible for vedas. 2 groups don't have much belief in much. Tell one subgroup in all three groups 30 different things the scriptures say (whether they do or not). Tell the other 3 subgroups a different 30 things. Then observe which groups "feel", see and experience what the scriptures said were good -- or true. Like terds draining energy. No one has disproven that terds drain energy. Nore has it been proven. But without a meaningful theoreticial foundation, the hypothesis is rather weak. What is the hypothesized mechanism: shit warps the fabric and creates a fartish field effect in the purity of the universal field of ground state consciousness? Terds bend the time-space continuum in the vector where it intersects the quantum field? And the theoretical foundation that slavery is good? And 40 year old men marrying 12 year olds is a good thing? When one takes 'the vedas", or anything, as the highest knowledge, and suspends their own critical facilities -- and common sense -- there is a vulnerability created. If a mass of people do this similtaneously, then some sort of deranged collective behavior is possible. To this extent, that collective groups have suspended their critical faculties for some esoteric, unsubstantiated premise, then there is a parallel thread across such groups. Different intensities and different levels of abheration, but still a common thread. Whether the mind-disabling belief is in vedic, christian or islamic myths, arayan virtures, the moral superiority of christianity, new age babble, peace / love / and drugs, the workers' paradise, god and country, neo-con democratic transformation, massive conspiracies, etc. If FF really is a place, still, where "MMY says" is a conversation stopper, its not that far from "the pope said, the furher said, the chairman said, jesus said, god said (via our preacher), the good book says, etc. Even Donald Duck got it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-PZVrWvJM0 And when emotion rules reason. "It SEEMS so.") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvp3zAPraF4 > " Sounds ridiculous to us," > > No, not at all. A grown man feels a "diminution of awarenss" from > seeing his own turd, sounds like unbounded cosmic awareness to me. > > > but just because our idiotic nonsustainable "scientific" culture > does > not understand how the universe works does not make Vedic > culture > untrue. > > The Vedas reveal the knowledge of the power of peering at poopie to > all men. I'm gunna guess that you feel a similar "diminution of > awareness" from being around menstruating women. That is another > thing that the brilliant Vedas are sure about that modern don't > understand. > > Dude if I didn't believe all this stuff myself for years I could be on > a high horse about it all. The truth is that when I hear you spout > this stuff I am so happy that I escaped this prison of specialness. > You can have it all man. Every last phobia about the natural world, > your body, women's bodies, other people, animals, food, clothing, your > door's direction, the seasons of the year... > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com