"I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that needs no discrediting."
OK Jim, you considered my discrediting of Vedic nonsense as howling and barking. Now that you have been presented with the inconsistency of this claim by Rick and myself, what do you have to say? Do you still maintain that the prescriptions in the Ayur Vedic texts, the Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas like not looking at your own poop are a description of what happens when you get enlightened? That naturally you no longer look at your poop after enlightenmen? Do you see how absurd this position is? Or the punishments meted out by Caste in the Laws of Manu which is the source of your misapplication of MMY's quote, do you maintain that an enlightened person would pour molten liquids in their ears if they are of low caste and hear the scriptures? Have you ever even read any of these texts? I've been very curious to see what cognitive benifits that self proclaimed enlightenment might carry. You have explained to me why you can't manifest your claimed sidhi powers on command. Now I am wondering if you can manifest simple honesty. You were wrong about this and your attempt to characterize speaking up against these absurd beliefs as "howling and barking" was out of line. So you are at a crossroads Jim. What is it going to be? Can you admit being wrong about something, can you give a reason why you are not wrong, or are you going to try to ignore counter evidence to your statement and refuse to learn something new? You gave up th option of quietly slipping away when you took the personal shot by your insulting mischaracterization of my point. What the TMO is doing is trying to emulate enlightened action vs gaining the enlightenment first. As I said, the vedic literature is descriptive, not perscriptive. Just like Buddha naturally practiced mindfulness, because it is a natural result of enlightenment, and yet many buddhists see it as a prescriptive action to gain enlightenment. All of the religions do the same thing, and to the extent that the TMO is a religious org, they do too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > <richardhughes103@> wrote: > > > > I reckon a new enlightened civilisation would implement the > > discoveries of it's own science into it's explanation of reality, > we > > have relativity, quantum physics and an understanding of evolution > > through natural selection. These are the high points of human > > achievement, so far. They are objectively verifiable, the vedic > > civilisation didn't have this logical way of revealing natures > > secrets. It's no shame to enjoy the fruits of their inner wisdom > and > > meditate while at the same time understanding that their view of > the > > world and codes for living are just that, an attempt to explain > > nature and a way of organising society. It's the TMO that has it > > wrong by trying to re-introduce this as though it's absolute > truth, > > instead of seeing it for what it is, a sometimes beautiful and > > sometimes weird and even revolting (to us) way of life. > > > > IMO getting to know you're inner-self should be liberating not > > enslave you to the past. > > > I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, > but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that > needs no discrediting. > > What the TMO is doing is trying to emulate enlightened action vs > gaining the enlightenment first. As I said, the vedic literature is > descriptive, not perscriptive. Just like Buddha naturally practiced > mindfulness, because it is a natural result of enlightenment, and > yet many buddhists see it as a prescriptive action to gain > enlightenment. All of the religions do the same thing, and to the > extent that the TMO is a religious org, they do too. >
