If you call it "yoga" then it is unique to India.  But then, "yoga" can be 
translated in various ways into English, and so after that the question becomes 
"Is yoga unique to India in all the possible meanings of the word "yoga"  with 
which we can render it into English? It is clear (almost a priori [because 
there is such a "thing" as a transcendental signified]) that there will be some 
renderings of "yoga" which are not unique to India.  Union, for example, (with 
God, with Self, with Nature, with whatever it is we cannot quite name that is 
the basis of our awareness of an "I am") is prolly common to all that lives 
and, according to Rory (and me on occasion) all that IS anywhere, anytime, in 
any universe of its own discourse and ours "ever expanding in the bosom of 
God," as Blake would have put it. Blake had, maybe, seen a translation of the 
Gita.  Yet he was as expert a yogi as any India has produced.   (which can be 
argued about even longer than the question of why  deepak
 left). 

So now, after the amazing sentence about Union that apparently came outa my 
ass, we'd have to determine which renderings of the word yoga we shall call 
uniquely Indian and which ones are universal.  

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"Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               
Vaj wrote:
 > At the same time it would be important to show where 
 > the basic TM lies are (i.e. the uniqueness lie, the 
 > effortless lie, the fastest boat lie, etc , etc.), why 
 > they are false and give informed perspective.
 >
 Well, it has already been established that Yoga (TM) 
 is unique to India; that knowing the Self is effortless,
 according Brahmananda Saraswati; that Self Knowledge
 with Raja Yoga is the fastest boat - none of these
 statements are false. Patanjali, Shankara, Ramanuja, 
 Madhva, Vallabha, and Chaitanya all agree on this. All 
 the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists.
 
 What is important is why you'd want to deny this, and
 why you don't offer any informed perspective, other
 than to just spout off all the time with your know-it-
 all attitude. What's up with that?
 
 
     
                               

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