On Nov 13, 2007, at 5:28 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Barry is talking about the larger situation, not Chopra in particular, and Judy knows it. In fact, that's why she's trying to *distract* from the larger situation, and try to make it all about Chopra, even though I clearly said at the beginning of my comments that I knew nothing about him and couldn't care less about him. I used Chopra as a springboard to talk about a larger subject -- the cult tendencies of the TM movement and how they manifest when someone walks away. THAT is what Judy is attempting to distract people from. She doesn't LIKE it when someone brings up the cult nature of the TMO.
What would be interesting and truly instructive would be for some researcher, to go thru, step by step, the basic TM initiation process and not only show it's cult indoctrination methods, but at the same time it's deceitful use of marketing tactics and flawed / biased "research" to indoctrinate and foster a belief (or beliefs) that are difficult to step out of once one "accepts" the lies. Merely pointing out the lies to TB's (or in some cases, even casual users) often provokes endless counter-posting and gymnastics to try to side-step the obvious. Various smoke-screens and obfuscation tactics are common in the knee-jerk reaction that inevitably follows.
However since TM is a dying path and lineage, I doubt there would be many interested in doing so.
At the same time it would be important to show where the basic TM lies are (i.e. the uniqueness lie, the effortless lie, the fastest boat lie, etc , etc.), why they are false and give informed perspective.
