--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 5:28 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > Barry is talking about the larger situation, not
> > Chopra in particular, and Judy knows it.
> >
> > In fact, that's why she's trying to *distract*
> > from the larger situation, and try to make it all
> > about Chopra, even though I clearly said at the
> > beginning of my comments that I knew nothing about
> > him and couldn't care less about him. I used Chopra
> > as a springboard to talk about a larger subject --
> > the cult tendencies of the TM movement and how they
> > manifest when someone walks away.
> >
> > THAT is what Judy is attempting to distract people
> > from. She doesn't LIKE it when someone brings up
> > the cult nature of the TMO.
> 
> What would be interesting and truly instructive would be for some  
> researcher, to go thru, step by step, the basic TM initiation 
process  
> and not only show it's cult indoctrination methods, but at the 
same  
> time it's deceitful use of marketing tactics and flawed / biased  
> "research" to indoctrinate and foster a belief (or beliefs) that 
are  
> difficult to step out of once one "accepts" the lies. Merely 
pointing  
> out the lies to TB's (or in some cases, even casual users) often  
> provokes endless counter-posting and gymnastics to try to side-
step  
> the obvious. Various smoke-screens and obfuscation tactics are 
common  
> in the knee-jerk reaction that inevitably follows.
> 
> However since TM is a dying path and lineage, I doubt there would 
be  
> many interested in doing so.
> 
> At the same time it would be important to show where the basic TM  
> lies are (i.e. the uniqueness lie, the effortless lie, the 
fastest  
> boat lie, etc , etc.), why they are false and give informed 
perspective.
>
What a collosal waste of time that would be. If someone doesn't want 
to learn it, the steep initiation fee is barrier enough. 

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