--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> shempmcgurk wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >   
> >> shempmcgurk wrote:
> >>     
> >>> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> 
wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> boo_lives wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> --- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge 
<no_reply@> 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> www.intentblog.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Deepak posts a blog usually two times a week. In the past 
> >>>>>>             
> > years 
> >   
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> that 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> I have read and commented on Intent, not once did Deepak 
give 
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> any 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> credit or even mention MMY's name. Plenty of what he says 
> >>>>>>             
> > comes 
> >   
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> right 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> out of  movement dogma; here is more on Intent, take a look, 
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> make 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> comments, most adore Deepak, however, recently I was banned 
> >>>>>>             
> > for 
> >   
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> being 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> a bit too critical of Chopra. He gets very political  and 
> >>>>>>             
> > tends 
> >   
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> to 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> make unquestioning statements without examples... his 
gospel. 
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>> His 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>>> previous posts are all listed, have fun!
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> All of mov't dogma comes out of certain sects of indian 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> philosophy,
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> but MMY-TMO promote it as cognized copyrighted wisdom 
from "the
> >>>>> greatest sage to have ever walked the earth" (the way MMY is 
now
> >>>>> referred to on their global broadcasts).  MMY took loads of 
> >>>>>           
> > help 
> >   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> from
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> the early leaders of the movt in the west who were essential 
to 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> making
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> TM accessible and most of them were dumped unceremoniously.  
The
> >>>>> MMY-Deepak partnership was beneficial to both, and Deepak is 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> under no
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> obligation to credit MMY every time he says something about
> >>>>> consciousness, in fact as I understand it the TMO lawyers get 
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>> upset if
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> Deepak does mention the mov't in any way.
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> So true and you see what happens if you tell some of the folks 
> >>>>         
> > here 
> >   
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> that 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> the TM methods are nothing new.  I actually enjoyed looking up 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> stuff 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> back in the 70's when I was a teacher to confirm I was 
teaching 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> some 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> stuff that was somewhat traditional (outside on the no OM 
thing 
> >>>>         
> > and 
> >   
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> the 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> single use of bij mantras).   Of course I never mentioned that 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> outside 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> of a circle of teacher friends that did the same thing often 
> >>>> recommending certain books.   Even if I pointed to page 239-
240 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> in "Mind 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Mysteries" which was published by Swami Sivananda way before 
MMY 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> even 
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> joined the Shankaracharya these people would say it is not the 
> >>>>         
> > same 
> >   
> >>>> thing as TM though in concept it certainly is.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Great!
> >>>
> >>> Could you please reproduce the pertinent parts of pp 239-240 
> >>>       
> > right 
> >   
> >>> here for us to look at?
> >>>
> >>> I thank you in advance for the trouble and attention you will 
> >>>       
> > take to 
> >   
> >>> do this task...
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Click on Meditation in the Index:
> >> http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm
> >>
> >> You can just save the page off too and they did and probably 
still 
> >>     
> > do 
> >   
> >> somewhere have it in a zip file.  I thought you already had the 
> >>     
> > file as 
> >   
> >> I've mentioned the book and the link too it here a number of 
times.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > As you'r probably already aware, I beat you to it and my link 
goes 
> > directly to pages 239-240 you referred to.
> >
> > And, as anyone can see, Sivananda's description on pp 239-240 
bear no 
> > resemblance whatsoever to the TM Technique.
> And I totally predicted a TB'er drunk on the kool-aid would say 
that.  I 
> SAID YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT CONCEPTUALLY, IDIOT!
>


Well, if you want to look at it "conceptually", then the Christian 
Catechism resembles TM.

Conceptually is broad enough that it could mean anything.  And you 
only threw in the whole conceptual thing in that last post because 
you needed an out for your initial bullshit statement.

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