On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:11 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: [snip] > > > > The "uniqueness" that was referred to here was the effortless and > > ease of the TM Technique. This WAS discussed conceptually by the TMO > > and MMY and, indeed, what was emphasized from Step One of the 7- Step > > Program. > > > > > That is NOT unique. Get over it. What MMY did and you can give him > credit for was packaging it, secularizing it to make it more acceptable > to the masses. Otherwise it is not all that unique at all. > Well, again, this is what this whole discussion was about: the uniquenes of MMY's program which was the effortlessness and ease. You say it's not unique. Aside from his own students (SSRS, Deepak, etc.) his teachings have been the ONLY ones I've seen that employ and emphasize effortlessness. It is the be all and end all of the TM Technique. When asked and challenged on this point, not only have you not been able to come up with ANY teacher that has a program that is effortlessness, you have lied and bullshitted us by pointing to readings that, once examined, show the exact opposite. So, please, shut the fuck up.
The reason most of us will not comment on the teachers who teach the same techniques is because not only have we commented before (and it's a slippery slope), it's also hard for TB TMer's to get beyond that attachment to the "effortless idea" and programming. Consequently, the conversations tend to get bogged down by semantics and belief. Most often TB's will try to target some minor element and make it into something it is not. The sad thing is, almost anyone with some good basic instruction in yoga or meditation will know that TM (or numerous other types of meditation) are not truly effortless. The people who claim otherwise end up looking like naive fools who just believe what they were told (without truly understanding it). You'd think it'd be embarrassing, but they boldly still make their specious claims (to effortlessness).
I personally like the Buddha's description of the amount of attention or mindfulness one uses as to being like tuning a lute and getting it so the strings are not too tight (to much attention) nor too loose. Rick tells an interesting story on the amount of effort he was told was appropriate and I find that very telling as to the "effortless dogma" (and pride) that has taken root in TM circles and what the teacher (MMY) actually intended.
