Rory wrote: Death shows us that the relative and the absolute are the same, that samadhi and not-samadhi are the same, spirit and matter are the same, self and not-self are the same, inner and outer are the same, and so on..."
Hallelujah, Rory, that's the best statement I've heard lately. And, Richard, how do you know that Curtis isn't living that? Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Possibly what Turq mistakes as "the emotion of enlightenment-like > experiences" is the more immediate emotion expressed as a result of > living Here and Now. Like when you stub your toe, cut your finger or > bang your head; its immediate, and expressed as such. No time for > concepts, postulates, discourse. Instead its here, now, in your > face, immediate, and so very very enjoyable. Life at one's > fingertips. That is the expression. > > As for Turq's contrast of emotion with "hours long experience of no > thought samadhi", he sees this clearly as a great contrast and > relief from the endless stories and clutter that ordinarily inhabit > his mind. Whereas the experience of established enlightenment is > that typically nothing is in the mind. "hours long samadhi"...when I > read that, my reaction was, "why only hours long? Seems so > limiting..." After hours long samadhi, then what, go back to hell? > How is that possibly better than living in freedom 24x7? Yes, exactly. Valuing "Hours long samadhi" is still just clinging to another experience, nothing whatever to do with Death or Life, really. Contrasting and comparing the "hours long samadhi" with "anything else" is just another good/bad duality of attraction/aversion. Death shows us that the relative and the absolute are the same, that samadhi and not-samadhi are the same, spirit and matter are the same, self and not-self are the same, inner and outer are the same, and so on... And from *this* place, experience shows itself to be as eternal as non-experience :-) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
