--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
><snip> Certainly a large percentage
> of the experiences claimed as "enlightenment"
> by Jim and Rory fall into the category of just
> some overwhelming emotion. 

On the one hand, you're quite right; no emotion is a substitute 
for "enlightenment"; nothing transitory is a substitute 
for "enlightenment". On the other hand, you're killing another straw-
man. I claim no experience as "enlightenment." Nor does Jim, as far as 
I can see. 

It would appear you're still managing to ignore me, as I repeat yet 
again that Death is the door to Life: everything false must die; 
the "eye of the needle" can accept nothing but Truth. 

No experience, no "tradition," no concept, no belief, no attachment, 
no "I" can survive the Long View. Death is a sculptor/sculpture, 
carefully chipping everything away that is not Real. And that's 
every "thing."

*After* Death, now -- that's different! But you're in no position to 
evaluate any of that until you Die. Surrender to the Crone, and then 
we'll talk.



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