--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Another point might be that if we categorise Hitler as a 
sociopath 
> > isn't that the same kind of pushing him away as the conspiracy 
> > theorists do. Another way of saying we're safe because he aint 
like 
> > us.
> >
> 
> 
> I think the different way we are looking at this, and that includes
> Turq, is that you both seem to be taking a philosophical stand on 
the
> concept, but psychiatrists are taking a clinical approach.  Telling 
a
> family that their son's interest in torturing kittens is just him
> expressing his dark side doesn't help.  The model evolved by 
treating
> patients who display certain recognizable symptoms. If you are
> counseling a person who lacks a capacity for empathy and cannot 
relate
> to the question, "how does your action make another person feel?",
> there is a problem for that person to develop relationships of any
> kind.  But all of modern psych is a POV.  It is one I appreciate but
> it is not for everyone I guess.
> 

I'm sure there is such a thing as sociopathy, I just think it can be 
overused to describe anyone who's selfish, nasty etc.

>From what I've read, the task of clinical diagnosis is quite involved 
and can only be applied by a qualified doctor (according to the his 
book) as it is easy to misdiagnose.

I like to think I met the real thing, I had a "friend" who fits all 
the descriptors. He was, to put it mildly, the scum of the earth. 
Vain, shallow, two-faced, thieving, manipulative. But because he came 
over as such a nice guy, very charismatic and funny it was easy to 
get drawn in. The lesson is always learned too late unfortunately and 
even though I've read and understood the books I couldn't say for 
sure if he was sociopathic or just a spoilt, selfish brat. which is 
why I think that categorising Hitler may be a way of excusing him.


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