On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:59 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:

> -If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that one
> is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting caught
> on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper levels
> of consciousness.
> More important than any specific meaning, is the ability to transcend
> using the sound, the vibration, of the mantra.
> The whole misunderstanding of meditation, I believe, is the notion, of
> getting caught up on meaning, rather than transcending all meaning and
> establishing consciousness, in that field which is transcendental to
> all meaning...

In traditions which use mantra as a path, the initial part of the path 
the mantra is used for "transcending". Later, in order to get the full 
benefit of the mantra, it's meaning is investigated at different 
levels. There is more to a mantra than it's translation into vaikhari 
(vocalized speech).

Transcendence is the beginning stage, meaning comes later.



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