--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that > one > > is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting > caught > > on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper > levels > > of consciousness. > > Right. Lets suppose your mantra was 'Raam' und you think Raam is a > specific Avatar of Vishnu, it is wrong, because Raam does not signify > a specific God. I have seen teachers saying this. I'll post you a > webpage later. Guru Dev says, that you should see your Ishta > (supposedly you have an Istha and believe in it, as GD was talking to > an Indian audience) in everything, and in every other God, and in the > whole creation, then the mantra looses actually its specific > conotations. He is the virtually asking for the mantra to loose any > specific limiting meaning. It is virtually all and nothing, not any > idea whe have of whatsoever God. Simply speaking Raam doesn't denote > the Avatar anymore. >
This is SERIOUSLY clear thinking! Thank you. > In the Ramacharitmanas, which according to Rick was Guru Devs > favorate > scripture, Raam itself is the body of God. At one moment the scripture > even says that the mantra is more important than God himself, and it > equally holds the view that it is the 'all wish fulfilling tree', so > to say the cure-all as what TM was always marketed, and that it is > equally potent without knowing any meaning. IOW the vibration of the > mantra in itself is seen as the means and not something it denotes. Of > course this is from a Hindu POV. But see its implications. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
