--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> imo the problem so many of us have and have had with Maharishi's 
> teaching is that once we enjoyed some success with the initial 
> practice of TM, we then wanted a road map from Maharishi to go the 
> rest of the way, on our terms.
> 
> Maharishi is like any other Master, with his own personality, 
> idiosyncrasies, etc. He lives a certain way and asks his followers 
to 
> live a certain way, adhere to particular beliefs, and so on.



What Maharishi are you talking about?

Certainly not Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of the TM 
technique.  The whole idea behind TM was that a practitioner did NOT 
have to live a certain way OR adhere to particular beliefs...just 15-
20 minutes of TM twice a day and one goes into activity and lives 
their lives WITHOUT adopting philosophies or religions are 
requirements to doing TM.

So, I completely disagree with your beginning premise.









> 
> It is foolish on the one hand to continue to judge Maharshi on our 
own 
> terms, if we see him as our Master. It has to be one way or the 
other. 
> 
> If you want enlightenment, go find it! Don't look to Maharishi to 
> provide it for you. On the other hand, if you believe that 
Maharishi 
> will or should provide you with the roadmap to your full 
unfoldment, 
> then do as he says.
> 
> Analogous to this process was my experience in school. I was very 
> interested to learn to read, write, and do basic arithmetic. After 
I 
> knew that (through the fourth grade as I recall), my interest in 
> school waned measurably. I didn't continue to tell my teachers 
what 
> they should or shouldn't be teaching me, or where the school 
system 
> was deficient. I just began learning things on my own (and did the 
> minimum necessary to earn the grades to progress through school).
> 
> Same with Maharishi. Once I learned TM, I followed the path 
unfolding 
> within, and expressed without, as it took me, believing in 
Maharishi's 
> teachings or not, as seemed appropriate. I admit I have been 
> disillusioned by things I once believed about him and his 
movement, 
> but that is certainly not a unique distinction in my life reserved 
for 
> Maharishi!
> 
> Maharishi is a great man, one of the greatest in history in my 
> opinion, and a Master to many, but he is not nor was he ever my 
> Master. I will always have a special place for him in my heart for 
> meaningfully starting me on the path to real enlightenment.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> 
> --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> <snip> I didn't see this so much in the TM tradition, which is why 
I 
> got fed 
> > up with Maharishi's "teachings" which seemed to be more like 
> > crabgrass spreading across a lawn than a well thought out 
teaching 
> > taking us from point A to point B in a comprehensible and 
meaningful 
> > way.
> <snip> 
> ...I am not sure that 
> > Maharishi's teachings are any help in this regard, there is just 
> more 
> > and more to do, learn, "buy" to take the place of beneficial, 
> > meaningful teachings leading to greater awareness and 
the "meaning" 
> > of the transcendent.




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