Rick, I appreciate your comments... My personal philosophy about rumors and inuendos is to only believe that which I personally experience and know of first hand. (On several ocassions I have heard things come back about me that were said about me that were absolutely not true, yet believed with certainty to be true by those who heard the rumors.)
Here is some hearsay which I do believe: MMY's right hand man at start of Movement(name withheld)asked MMY about one of the sex accusations made against him by a lady. MMY replied to him that he couldn't have sex if he tried because he was impotent. This was told to me by MMY's right hand man. So, people believe what they want to believe, and see things from the color of the glasses they wear. Is it possible that the accusers were trying to get notariety? Is it possible that the accusers were fantacizing and then believed their fantasy? Is it possible that a compassionate stroke of another to help clear their aura was misinterpreted as a come-on? I would have to witness the incident within the context it occured (if it occured) before making a determination. Until then, I believe no-way, and refuse to be part of rumor spreading. Wishing you the best, sincerely, Guy. --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for posting this, Guy. It was a good reminder for me of how powerful > Maharishi really is, though I haven't really forgotten. Totally awesome > dude, to use modern vernacular. He helped me a lot in this way too, although > my experiences weren't as dramatic as yours. My problem is (if it's a > problem), that having heard and dismissed rumors of Maharishi's own > sexuality for most of my 37 year meditating career, I finally became exposed > to enough credible evidence that I believed them. You're still welcome to > disbelieve them, of course, and I fully expect that you see me as deluded, > but bear with me for a minute. > > First, let me say again that I spent years in Maharishi's close proximity, > so I know what an extraordinary being he is. Assume, for a moment, that the > rumors are true. How would you come to terms with them? You know how > powerful and highly evolved Maharishi is. You know that the bliss of the > Self is greater than the bliss of sex. So what would have motivated him? The > bliss of the Self is greater than the bliss of food too, yet Maharishi > enjoys food. In http://members.fortunecity.com/whitesessions/rishikesh.htm > he said to John Lennon that that the truth was like an iceberg with only ten > percent showing. So if he really did this, as so many women and personal > secretaries said he did, perhaps he didn't do it for the reasons you or I > would have. There are many stories in the Vedas of great sages like > Vasishtha having sex, even though many of them lived primarily recluse > lives. I suppose there were cosmic reasons for that. In Vashishta's case, > Shukadeva had to be born. As far as we know, Maharishi doesn't have any > offspring. But maybe he needed that relative experience to be more effective > in the world? Maybe his nature, like that of most people, is not to be a > lifelong bramachari, yet his fame prevented him from making a lifestyle > switch. Maybe it just didn't matter at his stage of evolution? Maybe he was > a fallen yogi? I just don't know, but it still puzzles me. Maybe I'll be > convinced at some point that all this didn't take place. Maybe the women who > said it did will retract their stories, but it looks more likely that > they'll publish books after he dies, at least one or two of them. And if > books are published, others may come forward. So anyway, call me an idiot > doomed to be reborn as a dog if it makes you feel good, but I've been > sincerely perplexed over this issue for several years now, so any light > anyone can shed on it will be appreciated. > > > on 6/4/05 12:28 PM, guybanner2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In May, 1975 I attended an ATR in France. MMY was giving advanced > > techniques. I was not ready for one of the 2 to 7, but I > > thought, "who said it had to be 2 to 7." So I decided to write in my > > own request. I had a high sex drive and it was interfering with my > > desire to be totally one-pointed in my spiritual practice. So, I > > decided to write on my advanced technique application > > form "Celibacy." I got at the end of the line and after an hour wait > > entered the initiation room where there were rows of tables with > > puja sets set up. We each did our own puja, then lined up to come > > before MMY to get our technique. > > > > I came about three feet before MMY with some apprehension about his > > response. He looked at the form and then at me, and said "Good." > > Then asked me "How long have you abstained?" > > I replied, "Two years." Then, firmly, "But I need help." > > MMY nodded, then closed his eyes, and went really deep into > > meditation. He surfaced about ten seconds later, and said, "It is > > good." Then MMY looked at me solidy. > > Then suddenly I felt a solid hard bolt of energy come from MMY and > > hit me between my eyes which stunned me by the impact. Before I > > could figure it out, a second solid hard bolt of energy again hit > > me between my eyes. > > Then I noticed my seminal fluid rising up to the second chakra > > level. A very sharp pain began; it was like an icepick was slowly > > being pushed into me at the pelvic chakra area. It was very painful > > and lasted about 5 seconds. > > Then the rising fluid seemed to become transmuted into a dense > > vapor. It rose slowly upwards, up the shushumna. It was a very > > pleasurable experience. When it reached the level of my heart > > chakra, it paused and radiated outwards from my chest in all > > direction with a great feeling of splendor. > > Then the radiating ceased and the upward flow of the dense vapor > > continued until it reached the level of my forehead, when again it > > radiated outwards in all directions with great splendor. > > That was my initiation into celibacy. It was done by a mere glance > > from my MASTER. > > He put my physiology through a metamorphosis that to this day has > > not changed. He changed the direction of my energy flow from going > > downwards and outwards into one which is transmuted and flows > > continuously upwards. > > > > Celibacy is a state of consciousness which has a corresponding > > physiologic correlate. It is not a vow of abstinance. Once this > > celibate stage is reached there is no temptation, there is not even > > a consideration, there is no "solitaire" play, nor any "nocturnal > > emission." Celibacy is not a matter of giving up anything. Sex gives > > you up. It is not a matter of denying oneself of anything. The state > > of celibacy is so fulfilling and euphoric that to have sex would be > > to make a sacrifice, such as would be done to have a child. Celibacy > > is a state of constant high which far overshadows any pleasure that > > can be derived from sex. (and this statement I make from once having > > been a sex addict). > > > > So, if MMY can transform my physiology with a glance, don't you > > think that Guru Dev could have done the same for him? > > If I, with my former oversexed drive, can be a perfect celibate, > > don't you think that MMY with his much higher state of consciousness > > can more easily be celibate? > > What high state of consciousness must a Master be in to be able to > > impart such a metamorphosis upon someone with merely a glance? > > > > A wise man once told me that people of high consciousness can > > recognize and understand those of lower consciousness. But those of > > lower consciousness cannot recognize and understand those of higher > > consciousness. > > > > I have been meditating for 37 yrs (TM instructor for nearly as long) > > and I have been on MMY's staff for 5 years. The above is just one > > example of Maharishi's great status. Maharishi is a very great > > MASTER. Anyone who cannot recognize that status and mocks him is a > > fool with the consciousness of a rock. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rick Archer > SearchSummit > 1108 South B Street > Fairfield, IA 52556 > Phone: 641-472-9336 > Fax: 815-472-5842 > > http://searchsummit.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
