I work with psychotics on a regular basis so it is very easy to know what to do. Was I there, no, of course not. But from what has been reported Sem was displaying very disorganized, psychotic behavior well before the pen incident. If you're not trained to deal with psychotic behavior you keep on thinking the person is going to snap out of it or something along those lines. That's not going to happen. Unfortunately nobody knew what to do and a death occured.
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you interview Sem? Were you there when things > went down? How do > YOU know what was the "appropriate" thing to have > done in those > circumstances? What training or procedures would you > have done > differently? > > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > How many of those deaths do you think occurred > after > > > the person in > > > question gave a very clear and distinct warning > that > > > he was dangerous, > > > and the persons supposedly in charge did > nothing? > > > > > > Sal > > > > Unless you having training dealing with > psychotics, it > > is very difficult to know what to do when they > start > > creating problems. Our "default" social response > > settings are useful for the majority of > experiences we > > have and those are with "normal" people. When > someone > > behaves outside of the normal range we usually > still > > apply our normal responses because we fail to > > recognize what is actually happening. Wysong had > no > > training with psychotics and just assumed Sem was > > behaving in a strange manner and needed to be > watched. > > He failed to recognize the incredible danger Sem > > possed because of his lack of training. This is > not > > his fault, but an institutional failing in lack of > > preparedness. Anyone in the mental health field > that > > has dealt with psychotics would have immediately > > recognized Sem as an unmedicated, delusional, > violent > > psychotic after the first attack and would have > called > > the police to have him restrained and brought to a > > recieving facility. This lack of traing and the > MUM PR > > concerns led to Levi's death. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2005, at 2:49 AM, bbrigante wrote: > > > > > > > About one out of every million college > students > > > is killed on-campus > > > > every year: > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover Yahoo! > > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for > the weekend. > Check it out! > > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
