Yes Vaj, it is the truth. As I mentioned to another query, that I 
write under psedonym of Guy Banner since I do not like calling 
attention to myself. I have not made this info known to anyone other 
than my wife (of course), but only have done so now because of the 
personal attacks against MMY who I cherish dearly. (MMY has 
renovated me from the depths of drug, sex and food addiction to a 
respectable normal life. I literrally owe him my life). My closest 
friends do not even know of my celibacy or of my prior to TM 
problems; these are personal matters which I keep private.
Guy

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well it is certainly helpful to experience the beginnings of 
urdhaveta 
> for ones evolution. My question in this case would be 'is this 
person 
> telling the truth'? One thing I have noticed as I came back into 
> contact with movement people today is that they will tell untruths 
to 
> protect their projections of their teacher and what they imagine 
the 
> teaching to be. It's really not that different from other types of 
> fundamentalism. Therefore I am always a bit skeptical of such 
isolated 
> and alleged experiences. Esp. as there is sometimes an ulterior 
> motivation such as 'save the teaching', etc.
> 
> On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> But you're still a smug bastard.
> >>
> >> That issue will probably resolve itself when he ultimately 
realizes
> >> that woowoo phenomena like he described have nothing to do with
> >> awakening.
> >
> > Well, that's true, but not completely true, Alex.
> > The phenomenon discussed does seem to have a little
> > something to do with awakening and not finding
> > oneself in a puddle.  :-)
> >
> > Unc




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