Celibacy was neccessary for me to break my prior addiction; I was like an alcoholic who could not just have one drink, since one drink would trigger back the addiction. So, it had to be all or none, and I had to choose none, and I was fortunate that MMY was available to grant me that wish. I never meant to imply that others should be celibate. And, I have never suggested to anyone that they should be celibate. Guy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks Peter, > > > If I were a smug eletist, etc. as some imply on this forum, > > > I would write under my real name. I simply gave an example > > > of my experience with MMY transforming my physiology into > > > celibacy to illustrate that if he can do this for me, how > > > could he not be celibate himself. > > > > I wouldn't assume that just because MMY can instill a particular > > value or woowoo experience in you that he would hold himself to that > > same value or cultivate that same experience. Chela-boinking gurus > > who preach celibacy are all too common a phenomenon. > > Bingo! Also, there is an assumption some people > (mainly Westerners) make that I personally feel > is not warranted. Namely that because some people > can do non-everyday things and perform the occasional > siddhi that they're enlightened. Apples and oranges, > in my book. Siddhis are just a skill; I don't see > them as having a one-to-one relationship with any > state of consciousness but the one required to > perform the siddhi. Being able to levitate (true, > hanging-in-mid-air leviation for some time) or go > invisible or whatever says nothing about the person's > enlightenment, merely that they have mastered that > particular siddhi. Just my opinion, on the basis > of having seen a great number of siddhis performed. > > > > But, people have taken this out of context and some how > > > think I am puffing about myself. > > > > I didn't see you as puffing yourself up. > > The stuff about being "on Maharishi's staff" was > pretty clear puffing-up. :-) > > > I saw you as glorifying the > > dogmas of corporeal asceticism as if they represent the higest state > > of spirituality. > > Bingo. My chosen path is cool and highly evolved; > yours sucks. > > > Denial/denigration of humanness is a huge trigger > > for me because I spent decades beating myself up with such value > > systems. I don't have a problem with folks who are naturally drawn > > to celibacy, but I really bristle at teachings that hold celibacy > > as some sort of highest spiritual value that people *should* > > strive for. I don't believe celibacy is good or appropriate for > > those who are not drawn to it, and it's certainly not a > > prerequisite for awakening. > > Bingo again. You're on a roll today, Alex. > > Unc
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