On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:58 PM, anonymousff wrote: > I personally never had such an amazing experience with Maharishi as > Guy described. But I did discover after spending some months on TTC > with Maharishi many years ago, that the same change in physiology > that Guy described had happened to me (urdhavaretas - energy > naturally going up).
I think we shouldn't confuse urdhaveta with prana-kundalini. Urdhaveta as a process has some remarkable characteristics well beyond simply having apana start to unify. > > So I think Vaj's skepticism is misplaced. Maharishi really is > capable of producing this effect on his students, whether it is in > the space of 30 seconds of direct attention, or several months of > darshan and meditation as taught by him. (Side note: some weeks > back, Vaj posted some lengthy quotes about practices to promote > energy going up. I don't remember the details other than frequent > reference to the "secret chakra". I can't say whether these > practices are worthwhile or not. But they, as well as Mantak Chia > (Taoist) type practices brought up by LBShriver in the past, strike > me as a remarkable amount of effort to achieve something that > happened to me without my even intending it - side/side note to Vaj - > get that Vaj - no effort was involved, not even intention!) That's mantra dude. It happens. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/