--Very well said annon.Kevin
n [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how many reading FFL can relate experientially to what Guy > Banner had to say about celibacy? > > I personally never had such an amazing experience with Maharishi as > Guy described. But I did discover after spending some months on TTC > with Maharishi many years ago, that the same change in physiology > that Guy described had happened to me (urdhavaretas - energy > naturally going up). > > So I think Vaj's skepticism is misplaced. Maharishi really is > capable of producing this effect on his students, whether it is in > the space of 30 seconds of direct attention, or several months of > darshan and meditation as taught by him. (Side note: some weeks > back, Vaj posted some lengthy quotes about practices to promote > energy going up. I don't remember the details other than frequent > reference to the "secret chakra". I can't say whether these > practices are worthwhile or not. But they, as well as Mantak Chia > (Taoist) type practices brought up by LBShriver in the past, strike > me as a remarkable amount of effort to achieve something that > happened to me without my even intending it - side/side note to Vaj - > get that Vaj - no effort was involved, not even intention!) > > I also am married. My wife and I experience a good deal of affection > for one another. A marriage can be celibate and be a happy marriage, > as long as it is not a strain or an ideal that is strived for or > something like that. It needs to be a simple reflection of the > reality of two human physiologies, and both partners need to be > comfortable with the arrangement. > > Guy was absolutely correct when he stated that celibacy is not a > practice but a state of physiology. In that state, there is nothing > to practice. And there is no feeling of lack. Pleasure and bliss > come in many forms. The experience of sexual orgasm is only one of > them. TurquoiseB's comments along the lines of "at least the rest of > us are getting laid but you're not" really just reflect on the range > of experiences that TurquoiseB has had, so he is being true to > himself in saying these kinds of things. But they really fall short > of the mark when commenting on Guy's experiences. > > I am guessing that Alex Stanley's remarks reflect on what is > currently going on for him in his own spiritual path - that is, > discovering that the ulimate truth doesn't depend on flashy > experiences, is itself ultimately simple. But I hope that doesn't > blind him from accepting the possibility that another person's > celibacy is a natural state for him. Saniel Bonder's Waking Down > philosophy and practice may have a handle on some significant > truths, but there may be more things in Heaven and Earth than are > dreamt of in his philosophy. It's a good idea to keep an open mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
