Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - now different? (was Celibacy - the Truth!)

[Llundrub]

> > ----Ironic idea considering CC is described as a state of two. You missed the part about "normal parts."   ----What's normal?   Frankly I never understood the big deal about CC. Sure I don't witness sleep (often), nor can I control dreams, but then, I have this mental brain spasm that I don't like controlling thing in general. I like my higher power to synchronize things for me.  What I just don't understand is how people identify with their flesh as opposed to their awareness itself. I also never saw a problem with ego per se, just with ego being egotistical. But then, I guess I just assumed that a person was a wholeness, and not some one thing or another. My brain can live with that.   But as for normal, WTF is that? It's a double trouble theory having one correctly functioning 'normal' individual and some other correctly functioning other person who is what?  Something else?  This is the purusha you're talking about to use the samkya line of reasoning, right? I just don't really understand all the CC stuff. I don't recall Patanjali discussing CC. I never read of CC as a milestone before Maharishi spoke on it. And furthermore the turiya is not some other one thing too counterpoint all the relative. It's not simply some purusha/prakriti duet.  Because the one of consciousness is three.   Like I had written before, I had a very strong CC experience when bad tripping on acid a few times when I was thirteen or fourteen. But even then what I noticed was the subtle vibrational offspin of energy coming from the unbalanced pressure of consciousness on matter. And a witnessing awareness.  The witnessing thing never left even if it sleeps heavily, but the energy took many years to work the negative kinks out of.  Actually the relinquishing control thing is part of a response to those bad LSD trips that I had as a kid. I was forced to retreat and relinquish control over the trip. Meanwhile it opened my eyes to the energy around me and it was the single main reason I got into TM and went to MIU.   MIU and TMers had good vibes.   I was invited to join the original Golden Dawn under regardie at 15, but they had bad vibes, or rather some stale post-submerged Atlantean Enochian elemental vibes combined with much nervousness. So instead  I wrestled with going to MIU or Naropa. But I needed the deep rest and restructuring of my subtle energies that I did in fact get at MIU. I needed the support of a group of powerfully positive people to blast my negative mental connotations away, otherwise I would have been a nutty occultist.   Still, I don't understand CC as a road mark. That would be like looking in a mirror and the mirror looking in the mirror but the looker looking at the looker.  It just doesn't work for me.   Sorry.     To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.