--- gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions and > > > > compulsions are a defense against an > emotionally > > > > disorganized experience. The source of the > > > > disorganization has to be addressed. > > > > > > > Who says? > > > Me. I'm a clinical psychologist. I do this for a > > living. > > Then how come this disorder is found in children at > nursery school age? And how come this disorder tends > to run in families? > > The fact is, no one knows what causes it. No, that's not true. I'm discussing the psychodymanics of the mind: defenses and self-organization. Of course there is a genetic component. And why do you see my rather cursory explanation contradicted by school age children with this diagnosis? I'll discuss this with you, but unless you have a mental health background you do not have enough foundational knowledge to discuss this in any informed manner. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but without training and experience with the mentally ill it's just opinion and not understanding. Sorry! In the same way, whatever your field of expertise is, I wouldn't try to contradict you or offer a critique because I don't know enough about it beyond mere opionion. > > --- Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > "sparaig" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], > "Phil > > > > > Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Another interpretation of the > observation > > > below > > > > > about the use of > > > > > > antidepressants: a lot of TM veterans > might > > > have > > > > > been clinically > > > > > > depressed for years and hoping that the > > > program > > > > > would cure the > > > > > problem - > > > > > > - and/or assuming that getting help for > the > > > > > condition was > > > > > > somehow "unspiritual." In which case, > > finally > > > > > doing something > > > > > about it > > > > > > may be a sign of maturity as much as > > > > > disillusionment with the TMO. > > > > > By > > > > > > the way, I say this because I spoke to a > > > scientist > > > > > who recently > > > > > > published a study on the use of > > > antidepressants > > > > > among long-term > > > > > > Buddhist meditators, so it's not unique to > > the > > > TM > > > > > world. This, of > > > > > > course, does not in any way diminish the > > very > > > real > > > > > despair caused > > > > > by > > > > > > finding out the emperor has fewer clothes > > than > > > one > > > > > imagined. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on prozac and my son is on something > > else. > > > We > > > > > both meditate and > > > > > > swear by it. That we have something a bit > > > tougher > > > > > than TM by itself > > > > > can > > > > > > handle doesn't invalidate TM. I was told > to > > go > > > to > > > > > sleep by 9PM > > > > > every > > > > > > night and I almost never do. Maybe TM + > 9PM > > > > > bedtime would be > > > > > enough, > > > > > > who can say? > > > > > > > > > > According to Mahaaraaja Nader Raama's book > > yoga > > > is > > > > > "connected" > > > > > to the cerebral cortex. I wonder if that's > why > > > > > meditation is > > > > > not necessarily very effective in treating > > > primarily > > > > > emotional > > > > > problems, like depression. OTOH, I seem to > > > recall > > > > > you use fluoxetine > > > > > for OCD, or stuff. But I guess there might > be > > a > > > > > strong emotional > > > > > component in OCD, too. > > > > > > > > OCD is an anxiety disorder. The obsessions and > > > > compulsions are a defense against an > emotionally > > > > disorganized experience. The source of the > > > > disorganization has to be addressed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says? > > > > Me. I'm a clinical psychologist. 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