When I hear somebody say "I can find no proof that Jesus even
existed." I think, yeah Ghengis Khan wasn't so great. I think it
would fun to not believe he existed. Such an easy and fun way to do
deal with whatever hatred and prejudice that I have for Ghenghis Khan
that murderous bastard.
Look up Tacitus, Livy, or Jocephus if you want historical
reference to a historical Jesus of Nazareth. Actually Luke was a
physician trained in Galatia by some accounts. There is actually no
reference to him as a disciple. He may have just been a friend or
associate with literary skills. Or didn't any of these peopl exist
either?
Not a christian here.... I'm just seeing the same neglect of
reality that make the fundamentalist born again so puzzling.... I
always think.........Why do you need to believe that?

--- In [email protected], "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the Artist *uses* Science, but usually not the other way 
> around.
> > > 
> > > Lawson
> > 
> > 
> > I believe that for a person who grew up in a developed county in 
> the
> > last 80 years the assimilation of some of the principles of 
science
> > are a given.  Even spirituality often uses uses proof systems that
> > appear to be empirical to some degree. It is only after proffered
> > evidence is show to be lacking does the rejection of all science 
> > usually take place IME. 
> > 
> > Even the New Testament tries to build a case for Jesus' divinity 
> based
> > on the performance of physical miracles witnessed and reported by
> > numbers of people. It surprised me on a re-read in the last few 
> years
> > how much time is spent trying to make this case.  There is much 
> more
> > time spent on the miracles than any of his presentation of ethical
> > philosophy which he gets so much undeserved credit for IMO.   
> > 
> speaking of evidence, I can't find any at all that the fellow even 
> existed, much less his divinity. one day I just looked inside 
myself 
> and asked myself where is the proof that such a person Jesus ever 
> existed? and I have yet to find any.
>


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