Hi Fred,

Thank you for your very kind response to my message,

This is true I believe in what you say, at present it is purely a 
matter of facing pain which is intense/extreme out of meditation 
constantly close to unbearable, and then the facing the closing the 
eyes is my difficult threshold during the day in pain.  

But even so, saying this... the difficulty which I refered to in my 
original message is as you say some "hope" of a result, a miracle, 
due to pain thresholds and learnings in "contentment".

The meditation is simple, nothing could be more so,  but this little 
boy is learning to be a man in facing pain at levels I previously 
thought impossible to feel while conscious.   I have made the first 
step at declining all drugs offered... because first off, they don't 
work (a blessing) and.. why drink boiled water during the day and 
then swallow heavy stuff like that at night?

I will stop and drink some hot water, I can feel my 'complaining' 
expanding some, so I will let it be, and go close my eyes....

Thank you,
Regards
Simon




--- In [email protected], boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> HI Simon, 
> 
> Just a few thoughts.  In my view there is no guarentee of any 
> positive result from any meditation technique, bar none.  We bring 
> our entire being to the meditational table and who knows what we 
need 
> to work on?  You might go through all kinds of changes before you 
see 
> more back to back positive results.  You just as easily might see 
no 
> improvements for years and years.  While you might grow impatient 
> with this I think you can use your feelings to recognize 
motivations 
> to change things in your life.  Maybe some of these changes will 
> remove blocks and then the flow in meditation will get easier?  
> People have such a wide assortment of experiences in meditation.   
> Some just sleep and sleep and that's all they do in their 
meditation 
> and for them at that state of their life that is just fine.  
> 
> If you feel that it is worth the long haul, then stick with your 
> program and see what comes of it.  TM can be a window to evolution 
> but just what sort of changes is hard to predict.  
> 
> I wish you well......
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> [snip]
>


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