--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "matrixmonitor"
> > <matrixmonitor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > (The "Malibu" - SIMS crowd):
> > > 1. Jerry Jarvis
> > > 2. Keith Wallace
> > > 3. Bob Boyer
> > > 4. Theresa Olsen - I met her at the house where MMY stayed in. 
> > > MMY wasn't in LA at the time.  Helen opened the door and my 
> > > friend and I walked in.  Tina was doing the dishes.  Met 
> > > Theresa and Roland.
> > > 5. Walter Koch - engineer, retired to Santa Barbara
> > > 6. Peter Ports - from Bay area, an unassuming, humble person 
> > > whose pic 
> > > may be seen in group pics with MMY; tagging along behind.
> > > The SRM group:
> > > 7. Charlie Lutes & probably Helen too.
> > 
> > 
> > ( I love posts to which one can respond fully,
> > doing the subject complete justice, in one word. )
> > 
> > Bullshit.
> 
> 
> Are you saying you are certain none of those people are enlightened?


I'm saying that I knew all of these people, 
and that I've heard four of the seven clearly 
say that they were NOT in CC or any other higher 
state, long after the "five-to-seven year" mark.

In other words, I don't know what their state of
consciousness was, but they seemed to.

This is just matrixmonitor's self-importance
bullshit. "I assume that these people were
enlightened, therefore they are important,
therefore I was slightly important because
I saw or met them once."

You find the same phenomenon in every spiritual
trip, but rarely with the same level of naivete
that one finds it in TM.



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