--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "matrixmonitor"
> > > <matrixmonitor@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > (The "Malibu" - SIMS crowd):
> > > > 1. Jerry Jarvis
> > > > 2. Keith Wallace
> > > > 3. Bob Boyer
> > > > 4. Theresa Olsen - I met her at the house where MMY stayed
in.
> > > > MMY wasn't in LA at the time. Helen opened the door and my
> > > > friend and I walked in. Tina was doing the dishes. Met
> > > > Theresa and Roland.
> > > > 5. Walter Koch - engineer, retired to Santa Barbara
> > > > 6. Peter Ports - from Bay area, an unassuming, humble person
> > > > whose pic
> > > > may be seen in group pics with MMY; tagging along behind.
> > > > The SRM group:
> > > > 7. Charlie Lutes & probably Helen too.
> > >
> > >
> > > ( I love posts to which one can respond fully,
> > > doing the subject complete justice, in one word. )
> > >
> > > Bullshit.
> >
> >
> > Are you saying you are certain none of those people are
enlightened?
>
>
> I'm saying that I knew all of these people,
> and that I've heard four of the seven clearly
> say that they were NOT in CC or any other higher
> state, long after the "five-to-seven year" mark.
>
> In other words, I don't know what their state of
> consciousness was, but they seemed to.
>
> This is just matrixmonitor's self-importance
> bullshit. "I assume that these people were
> enlightened, therefore they are important,
> therefore I was slightly important because
> I saw or met them once."
>
> You find the same phenomenon in every spiritual
> trip, but rarely with the same level of naivete
> that one finds it in TM.
>
And you are absolutely sure these people were telling you the truth?
Given the less than positive reception one finds in discussing the
subject of enlightenment, I am leaving the door open that these
people were being less than candid with you.
