--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" 
> <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote:
> >
> > When a politician tells lies and manages to foul up people's
> > judgment and gets elected as president, maybe nature wanted
> > him to do bad things to test you. You trusted this candidate,
> > because he had influential supporters, who affirmed you him
> > to be very trustworthy and basically faultless.You voted for
> > him, and now you are responsible for the consequences?
> > This is what I understand you to be explaining here.
> 
> Yes, that's one possible scenario, if a rather simplistic
> one. But that's the basic idea.
> 
> The larger point is simply that it's impossible to know
> what nature "wants" and why. The consequences and the
> "reasons" may be impossibly complex, or might not even
> resemble any sort of reasoning humans can grasp, let
> alone fitting the human notion of "perfection."
> 
> Another angle to it is that whatever actions you assume
> authorship of, you get to take (karmic) responsibility
> for. Michael Dean Goodman has pointed out that in the 
> phrase "spontaneous right action," the emphasis is on
> "spontaneous," not "right." The premise about
> enlightenment is that the enlightened person always acts 
> spontaneously according to the dictates of nature,
> without mistakenly assuming authorship of his/her actions.
> 
> But this is experiential; the person who isn't enlightened
> can't "mood-make" that he or she is not the author of
> his/her actions.

T'would seem that many of those who have claimed 
enlightenment have not been so constricted, and 
as a result have been able to moodmake that 
they were not the author of their actions very 
successfully, so convincingly that many weak-
minded people actually believe it. :-)



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