--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" 
> > <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > When a politician tells lies and manages to foul up people's
> > > judgment and gets elected as president, maybe nature wanted
> > > him to do bad things to test you. You trusted this candidate,
> > > because he had influential supporters, who affirmed you him
> > > to be very trustworthy and basically faultless.You voted for
> > > him, and now you are responsible for the consequences?
> > > This is what I understand you to be explaining here.
> > 
> > Yes, that's one possible scenario, if a rather simplistic
> > one. But that's the basic idea.
> > 
> > The larger point is simply that it's impossible to know
> > what nature "wants" and why. The consequences and the
> > "reasons" may be impossibly complex, or might not even
> > resemble any sort of reasoning humans can grasp, let
> > alone fitting the human notion of "perfection."
> 
> I think the problem here is why people in the TMO 
> (I've not heard it anywhere else)think "nature" actually
> *wants* anything.

It's shorthand, Hugo, not meant literally (that's
why the scare quotes, don'cha know).

> What is meant by nature in this context? MMY meant 
> Will of God when he said natural law. I'm a long
> way from being convinced that nature needs any
> sort God. Perhaps the reasons you may think are 
> complex and beyond our grasp are simply appearing 
> like this because they don't actually exist.

Certainly possible. (I've been explaining a
premise, BTW, not taking a stand on whether it's
true. I have no way of knowing.)


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