--- In [email protected], "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John
>
> I was referring to you. You gave up TM how many years ago yet it seems
> to have quite a grip on you now.
>
> Instead of just moving on with your life, even though you may not be
> participating in the TM world/programs, you are spending quite a bit
> of time in TM world via all these discussions.
>
> KN
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> than it could havse--- In [email protected], "John M.
> Knapp, LMSW" jmknapp53@ wrote:
> >
> > > You are a therapist? Would you recommend that a patient, once he
saw
> > > the error of his ways, spend the next 20 years wallowing in it?
> >
> > Sorry, KH, I'm not following your thought here. I suggest that no
> one "wallow in it."
> > Certainly not clients in my practice.
> >
> > My clients and I typically spend about 4 sessions or so talking
> about the processes that
> > may have been present in their group. Then we spend 4 or so sessions
> practicing simple
> > cognitive behavioral techniques to help cope with any lingering
> mental, emotional, social,
> > or spiritual challenges they may be facing.
> >
> > For most that's it. Some few clients choose to work longer. Some
> choose to work less.
> >
> > If you have an interest, check out
> http://knappfamilycounseling.com/cultdefine.html or
> > http://knappfamilycounseling.com/razor.html where I talk about the
> dangers of dwelling
> > on "blaming the cult."
> >
> > In my work, I say blame is largely about the past: Who did what to
> whom when. It doesn't
> > bring about change.
> >
> > I emphasize responsibility, which is about the future. No matter
> what happened to a client
> > in the past, only the client can take responsibility for changing
> his or her life.
> >
> > As to my wallowing in it personally, if that was your meaning, TM is
> a relatively small part
> > of my life -- and has been for some time. That's why I let the
> trancenet.net domain
> > registration lapse. (I brought it back because I received a number
> of requests to do so.)
> >
> > I would say less than a third of my current clients were involved
> with TM. These days the
> > largest group were involved with various Bible-based groups.
> >
> > But some people do feel called to being an activist. Nearly every
> religion has an active
> > reform group. Do you feel the fellows who founded SNAP, who seek
> justice for children
> > molested in the Catholic Church, should just get over it?
> >
> > They're an inspiration to many in and out of the Catholic Church.
> >
> > My influence is a tiny fraction of theirs, I know. But I do what I
> can. I wish I were more
> > gifted. But we all work with the cards we're dealt.
> >
> > Being a cult activist is not something I recommend to anyone. In
> fact, quite the opposite. I
> > recommend to my clients that they avoid replacing the high-intensity
> of their group with
> > the high-intensity of cult activism for at least a year after
> leaving their group. I think it's
> > important that people rediscover their authentic selves before
> rushing off into a new
> > cause.
> >
> > I was offered this advice way back in 1995 as I was leaving TM. I
> wish I had taken it. My
> > exit from TM was messy and painful. I think many of my more
> over-the-top writings at
> > that time would have been quite different if I had looked to my own
> needs and challenges
> > before rushing off into the Internet wars.
> >
> > But what's past is past. I've tried to be more temperate in the last
> 8 years or so.
> >
> > J.
> >
>
