--- In [email protected], "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sandiego108" <sandiego108@>
> wrote:
> 
> > I thought evil needed to actually have an influence to be 
> > considered "evil"-- Why not let the techniques continue and 
> > see what happens?
> 
> Right Jim, why not see what happens. If TM theory is right - 
> blame the laws of nature for it - because then it would work 
> that way without INTENTION. If its wrong, as you seem to think - 
> why getting all paranoid? Or are they worried about what they 
> (the Tmers) THINK? Well, then its 1 finger pointing to them and 
> 3 pointing back - because they (Turq, etc) obviously want to 
> change their (TMers) thinking. In either way this discussion 
> doesn't make much sense.

Michael, Michael, Michael. WHEN are you going to
learn? I'm not trying to change what you think.
I'm not trying to change what TMers think. I only
expressed what *I* think, as I thought it. As far
as I can tell, it's YOU who is so challenged and 
threatened by what I think that you perceive it 
as an attempt to change what you think.

Once more -- I don't CARE what you think. I don't
CARE what you believe. What you think and believe
has no more meaning or importance in my life than
what the flea my dog just scratched off his butt
thinks and believes. YOU have no more meaning or 
importance in my life that that flea.

Are we clear now?

> > So what if a few folks think this result or that result have 
> > occurred? Until someone literally puts a gun to my head, I am 
> > not concerned in the least-- IME, the whole of nature has never 
> > conspired against a group of people identified by another group 
> > of people.
> 
> Its so absurd, because you then would have to apply it equally 
> to anyone praying for peace - s/he wants to change the minds of 
> people without 'discussing'. It seems that CHANGING MINDS is 
> only allowed as an intellectual, rational activity. 

It doesn't MATTER how it is done. It's the belief that 
it should be done that is questionable in my view. 

To believe that you have the right -- or even sadder
and sicker, the duty -- to change other people's minds
is the problem IMO. To believe that you have the right 
or the duty to change someone else's mind and get them
to believe what you believe, you pretty much have to 
believe that you are right, that you know The Truth.

I don't. I never have, and I never will. ANYTHING I
say is my opinion, and my opinion alone. 

UNLIKE YOU, I do NOT assume that my opinion is correct
or "right" or -- even worse -- The Truth. That's what
fanatics believe.

If you'd like to believe that you know The Truth, and
you'd like to spend your life trying to change the 
minds of others -- either in words or using magical
woo woo -- to make them see and believe The Truth
as you perceive it, well...go for it. I hope it makes
you happy. But don't expect me to respect you for 
having so little humility as to spend your life that
way. I have more respect for the flea.

Me, I've got better things to do than to go around try-
ing to get people to believe my opinions. My life is 
full enough trying to figure out what my opinions ARE, 
and that's a tough enough task, because those opinions 
change from day to day, and sometimes even faster. 

PLEASE stop with this "You're trying to change my mind"
paranoia. I'm not. Even though it sure sounds to me as 
if yours could use a change. It's been spouting the
same old paranoia for some time now.



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