--- On Tue, 7/1/08, curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is no joke to even get close to interacting
> with that
> level of a person's identity.

Yes it is. You really have to be trained well and very clear in your own 
psyche. I've seen some deprogrammers do some serious damage to people by 
tearing down belief structures simply because they had a need to make others 
think like themselves. Not saying you did this, Curtis, but I saw some former 
MIU guys do this sort of thing to some vulnerable people. It was all ego on the 
MIU guys' part.






> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], ruthsimplicity
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected],
> "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fair enough.  I think I care what people
> think because I truly
> want to
> > > > change how certain people think.  Hopeless
> endeavor, eh?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Just typing out my own perspective seems like a
> lower but achievable
> > > bar for me.  It often comes out of the
> juxtaposition with someone
> > > else's post.
> > > 
> > > I never have enough info on people here to
> understand what their
> > > beliefs mean to their happiness and sanity to
> assume that they need to
> > > change theirs.  Even when I consider some POVs as
> completely fucking
> > > nuts!  People hold beliefs for so many
> psychological reasons that the
> > > epistemological solidity of a position is often
> irrelevant to the
> > > humanistic relevance.
> > > 
> > > That comes off as somewhat condescending, but
> I'm sure many view my
> > > own beliefs as just as removed from reality.  So
> the playing field is
> > > even, we all circle each other with our
> "better" perspective.  That
> > > works for me.  I can feel as "right" as
> I want as long as I take into
> > > account that this is the same perspective
> everyone else has.  It
> > > connects me to people who I totally disagree
> with. We are both humans
> > > enjoying being right.  While unable to understand
> how full of shit we
> > > are in our blind spots!
> > > 
> > > Ain't it grand! 
> > > 
> > It's grand and not grand.  I think for people here
> things are pretty
> > much OK and we are all enjoying being right.  Except
> maybe Kirk.  Or
> > even Edg. Where are they anyway?
> > 
> > I think I want to change my TB friends because they
> are not happy. 
> > 
> > I know I don't have that kind of power.
> >
> 
> 
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