What he said below.  Plus, there is the possibility,
the universe being infinite and not limited to concepts
like humans, that every experience of enlightenment by
every human who ever experienced it could have been
different.  Talk about pushing buttons...the scripturalists
who want everything to be predictable and documentable
would have a bigger problem with that possibility than
they would the idea that there might not be a sentient
God.

Unc

--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of identification of 
> consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". 
> 
> Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC "baby awakening". 
Tom
> is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you sometime back as CC
> being "baby steps" and Tom lambsted me up and down for 3-4 posts as 
to
> why there was nothing "baby" about it. But with Sat Yuga and all,
> maybe things are mellower. You yourself are even making what you
> previous called "huge epistimological mistakes!" and laughing it 
away.
> 
> On a more serious note, do you singularly define CC as "Cessation of
> identification of  consciousness with mind. End of 'I' and 'me'"? Do
> you feel "No I"  is both nexcessary and sufficient to label the
> experience "CC"? Without relying on dogmatic kneejerks, it does 
seems
> there are additional "attributes" along with or beyond the 
experience
> of "No I". 
> 
> Though as you know I am no fan or labeling any experience or person
> with such labels, it seems that if one does enjoy that exercise, 
they
> may be jumping the gun a bit to "ring the bell of Eureka" of CC 
simple
> when experience "no I". But as people often remind me that I know
> nothing, I tend to agree.
> 
> Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening 
at
> the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is
> really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge
> blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold
> leaf topping?




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